Those Aircraft Accidents

As everyone knows, we’ve had the horrible crash involving a Blackhawk helicopter with a CRJ jet at Reagan; the crash of an air ambulance in Philadelphia; and, people are freaking out over the engine fire that required an evacuation. There has also been a huge amount of disgusting, despicable, and vile attacks on the helicopter crew even before their bodies were cold. To say that I am repulsed by what is being said, and especially by WHO is saying some of it, is an understatement.

Let’s start with some basics that are getting missed by far too many online or in the media. First up, there’s this whole thing called an investigation to be done. We really don’t know anything at this point, as there are few established facts beyond the fact that the crashes/incidents occurred. There is a process for such things, and for aviation a very specialized process.

If you can, look for a copy of an older booklet “Air Accidents and the News Media” from the sadly defunct (the late Martin Caidin and I did what we could to try and save it) Aviation/Space Writer’s Association. While old, the basic process remains much the same even though technology has changed some of the elements of that process. If I ever get moved and can find my copy, will look into scanning it in as a PDF as it is not a large booklet.

The “we want scapegoats and answers now or we will make shit up” crowd are not going to like the process. It is time consuming, because it is thorough. Some things are already underway: data from ATC and other sources has been secured and will be available for examination and review; mechanics and others involved with the flights were or are sequestered and initial statements taken (note, logs and such were taken in the first part I mentioned); and, photos, video, and other efforts to record the scene have been made. All of this has been going on even as recovery of the bodies is underway, and I will note that the only reason anything should have been moved was to recover a body. See the booklet as this is an issue.

Now, comes the hard part. The wreckage, once documented, will be moved into a hangar somewhere to be re-assembled as best possible. Sometimes all you can do is lay it out in the rough shape of the aircraft. It will be examined in detail as some of the smallest things can tell a huge part of the story of what happened. There are metallurgical tests and more that will be done. While this is going on, the Flight Data Recorders will be examined, and based on that yet more controls and parts will be examined grossly and even on a microscopic level.

Even as the mechanical exams are going on, other investigators will be going over all available records of the crews involved. Training, evaluations, and more will be examined, even as autopsy results are gone over thoroughly. Investigators will also talk with friends, family, those they spoke to in the days prior to the event, and try to get an assessment of the psychological condition as well as the physical. There is no detail of their lives that will be off limits.

All of those investigations alone would be time consuming, but as they are investigating they often decide they need additional specialized testing, retesting, and follow-ups. They may need to bring in outside experts to examine things. It all takes time. Also, believe it or not, I’m not listing all the steps. There are others.

The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) usually does a pretty good job on these. In fact, they’ve solved some crashes that were head scratchers to be polite. It just takes time.

Now then, for all I was on the board of AWA, I am a very low-hour pilot and claim nothing like the expertise of Buzz Patterson and others who have not hundreds but thousands of hours. That said, I’ve also worked a job where if a plane I had worked on had gone down, I would be one of those immediately sequestered. As such, I’ve paid attention to things and will share a few with you.

I want to link to a thread of posts I did on X while recovering from the food poisoning (ongoing). Start here. Within that thread there are links to others including a Blackhawk pilot who provides some excellent perspective. A short version is that the airspace around DC is the worst in the nation, and that’s more than just my opinion. It is congested, it is complex, and it is dynamic. For all that I have a soft spot for Reagan National, it should not still be there. All the runways are at best marginal (too short, 33 worst), and when you add in other corridors, noise abatement, etc. it should not be used as it is used.

ATC is shorthanded (thank you Obama and esp. Sec. Pete of the Biden Regency) because of diversity efforts that have left some 3,000 (4000?) plus qualified individuals denied employment because they were white. Also, the tech used by ATC truly is from the 80s (and late 70s) and has needed upgrading for quite some time. I would love to see Elon’s team take it on as I suspect that much better could be done with commercial off-the-shelf gear for a fraction of what the usual contractors want to charge.

Now then, if you didn’t read the thread and all the links, at least read this from someone who knows Blackhawks, training, and more. My experience with NVG is limited (glad to get some to test, cough) and did not involve flying. That said, read what he said. It’s true.

As a quick aside, reading a good bit on social media from people complaining about the VIP “air taxis” and such. They may/do have a point about people over-using/abusing it as a status thing. Yet, the training flight wasn’t for that, it was for continuity of government. Yes, the practice was for getting leadership out of DC in the event of emergency. It’s pretty constant as it is the true mission for most of the choppers. It really does need to happen.

I’m going to skip ahead a bit here, as to continue on right now leads to a topic where I really want to lose my cool. Which I really shouldn’t do, so…

Let’s skip to the air ambulance. From some of the video that has come out, it appears it suffered an event in flight before it came down. That event appears to be an explosive (or expansive) event. That does NOT mean it was a bomb or missile; but, something occurred in flight that emitted a flash just before the jet started down, and it appeared to be on fire on the way down. Based on the color of the flash, it was not a low-order event. However, the video does not give a lot of details.

That said, it is not confirmed and may or may not be verified. I will note that Robert Davi did several posts on X going into the complex fuel management system for that particular jet. Weight and balance are a thing, and if something happened to send fuel forward…

In both cases, smart and/or knowledgeable people are choosing not to speculate absent facts. The fact is, we DO NOT YET HAVE FACTS. That said, allow me to posit the following:

There is no one cause for the DC crash. In fact, I already see multiple issues that may have contributed to the crash. While, yes, I do have a theory, it does not rest on one person. Read the threads on X and you begin to get an idea as there were multiple issues.

Also, for all the baying about lack of experience, what the everliving do you you think training missions are for? In this case, I do not yet buy into lack of experience. I will, however, point out that when you are with an IP, you are a bit nervous and minding your Ps and Qs.

Further, when flying with an IP they are in command and responsible for the aircraft. They have to catch mistakes the person being instructed makes; they have to teach you to handle the unexpected; and, teach you to get the routine right. Among other things I’ve had an IP do to me was to effectively kill the engine a mile or more out from the airport and tell me to make it. I did. Could that IP have gotten the engine back on and gotten us down if I had bleeped up? You bet your bippy. In this case, in DC, the actions of the Blackhawk rest with the IP, no matter who was doing what at the time.

Which make the vile and loathsome attacks on Captain Rebecca Lobach even worse. That is not to say or claim that she didn’t make a mistake or mistakes. What I am saying is two fold: we DO NOT KNOW yet if she did or not; and, even if she did the ultimate legal responsibility rests with the IP. To trash her, her service, and her skill without any shred of proof simply to make money or political points is beyond despicable. It is bereft of honor, humanity, or integrity.

As for those making hay (and engagement bucks) off the fact that her social media accounts were scrubbed, along with those of some family members, allow me to ask you this: have you looked into the mirror or is the torch you carry blinding you? Given the braying mob, the trash already being talked, and the vicious smears I can’t blame them. You can excuse your behavior however you wish, but you can’t justify it.

Just a quick note for those who are trashing her because she is female. I’ve got a suggestion where you can stick your ignorant misogyny. The woman my Dad dated after mom died was the baby sister of his best friend growing up. Happens she was one of the first female pilots in the U.S. She was taken with flight, and the local IP/flight school cheerfully taught her for free with one caveat — she had to fly low and wave at all the guys below as they would then come for paid lessons as they couldn’t let a guurrrlll outdo them like that. It worked, and she ended up in some competitions and such in the 30s, properly chaperoned. She was good enough that when war came, Jacqueline Cochran personally asked for her help. If you don’t know who that is, you are not in aviation and should look it up.

Now, as for Philadelphia, again I have a theory but prefer to wait for some facts. The fact that this service lost a plane a year or more ago may or may not be germane to this crash. That may be a discussion for another day.

As for the engine fire, it’s not good but not that unusual either. Wish it were.

The fact is, the aviation safety system is in trouble. It has been since Obama first stuck an oar in and messed with hiring and more. The technology has needed updating for decades. Frankly, I’m optimistic right now given the new team in place and that they should have the backing to make substantive positive changes. Who knows, maybe some of the 200+ NTSB safety recommendations that have been ignored might get implemented.

For now, let’s sit back and wait for some solid data before flying off the handle. Let’s get some facts before defaming people. Let’s give the investigation time to actually do what it is supposed to do.

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Thank You!

There was no paperwork at all in the box, so I simply want to say Thank You!! to whoever sent this. It really did brighten my day (needed that) and I am looking forward to trying it out and playing with it here soon. As for those who don’t know what it is, you are in for a treat too soon I hope. Thank You!

Best Laid Plans…

Sorry to be away from keyboard, but Tuesday evening decided to eat dinner out on the way home from the ENT appointment. Stopped at a place I don’t hit often but have enjoyed as they do good hamburgers among other things. Tried a different appetizer with homemade aioli, and then did get a burger. Started feeling off even before the appetizer completely done, and feeling bad by the time I left. Few hours later I was in the bathroom with the joys of food poisoning.

I will do a longer AAR here soon, as there were some preparedness lessons learned. Couple of tweaks needed in my plans and systems, and if I am going to be collapsed on the floor I want a nicer, more comfortable restroom. Definitely not one where literally freezing air from outside is being vented onto me.

I’m on the mend but no where near 100 percent yet. May end up having to call the doc on Monday, but also hoping it won’t be needed.

More soon. Be prepared and keep your family and friends close, and your things where you can find them in the dark.

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No Irish Products Need Apply

Part of my family is from Ireland, and I appreciate Irish contributions to the world. Heck, the enclosed Catholic confessional came from the Irish I’m told (by an Irish priest no less). However, there comes a time when you have to let rubbish go; and, to call the current leadership and government of Ireland rubbish is to insult every midden heap and landfill in the world. They are a disgusting lot, and you should pay attention to the ethnic and religious makeup (and how few generations they’ve been in Ireland) of many of them.

As I noted in the previous post, the despicable fascista midget serving as president had Jews removed from the Holocaust Memorial service yesterday, with his goons dragging a pregnant Jewish woman out by the arms. My understanding was that he has been asked by the Jewish community not to attend, but did anyway just to be the largest anti-Semitic ass he could possibly be. Suspect he’s more than happy that many Jews are fleeing Ireland (and I strongly suggest they do as this guy would be right at home in the Third Reich and I suspect he mourns that they no longer exist).

Made the decision a few weeks ago to stop buying Irish products, but decided to go public with it after yesterday.

Kerrygold butter? Not any more. Plugra is as good, costs a little less, and is made here in the US I think.

Alcohol? On the stout front, America as a large abundance of good stouts, not to mention craft beers, that are flat-out better than Guinness. It may be heresy to some, but Guinness mostly coasts on reputation. Diageo is the owner and is not Irish, but promotes it as an Irish brand. Had just been introduced to an independent Irish distiller, but Irish whiskey is off the list. Frankly, lots of small independents to explore here, and I would offer that Scotch was the better choice usually. Again, easy choice to make and I won’t suffer for doing without.

Irish wool and fabrics? Eh, check out this U.S. company that I’ve heard good things about. Again and again there are a lot of good options here to check out, and you would be helping small U.S. businesses.

Seriously, it may not make a huge difference but it is something I can do. I don’t have to support Nazi-loving politicians. I can instead invest in American products and small American businesses. Hope you join me in so doing, as if enough of us do, it might help make a difference.

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It’s Monday

My apologies for the lack of posting, but life has been interesting. Think I noted before that I am having to switch over to Medicare from my current insurance, and that has been a process. I actually have a meeting on Wednesday to go over everything and make my decisions on what I’m going to do for now. Complicating things is that my upcoming birthday actually increases my options so what I do for now may only be in place until the next enrollment period. Fun.

I’ve also continued to have some digestive issues, and am about to go do something either brilliant or stupid to try and finish getting over the current round. Looking at going to see a nutritionist as a lot of what we are having to do in regards diet is trial and error. Have some ideas, want to get some good input on them and modify as best.

There is a lot going on in the world and I am trying to keep up with it. Hope to get some more substantive posts up soon, but for now will note that the first 100 hours of Trump were amazing. Instead of the usual, he came in with a blitz from which they still have not recovered. They have yet to figure out where to start because he’s hit with so much, so fast.

Glad to see Pete approved, and it is the most military thing ever to see a junior officer rescued by a member of the E-4 mafia. The defense industry worked hard behind the scenes against him, and one might want to look at donations to the three alleged republicans who voted against him. Noting that the AF is going all-in on malicious compliance to directives, thinking that might not be a good idea nor go as they think it will. Lots of topics for discussion later.

Not surprised to see the trans-dating terrorist (former? You sure about that?) president of Columbia suddenly become the darling of the progressives. Yep, he sure stood up to Trump and showed him — for about 30 minutes. Short take for now: Columbia has many serious problems, and the people are already fed-up with this guy to start with. As someone noted on X, this isn’t Central America where calling the gringos names gets you approval. The path he started on will collapse their economy pretty quickly I suspect, and even if all ends up patched up with the US, the reality of what he did and it’s potential impact may result in a rapid departure for him. Again, lots of good topics for discussion later, though I do wonder if Japan still has some ties/influence that could be leveraged…

More on Ireland here in a bit. After they dragged a pregnant Jewish woman out of the Holocaust Memorial (and threw out a dozen or two other Jews) for that midget (mental and physical) fascist anti-Semite of a president, I’m done. He was asked by the Jewish community not to attend I understand, so of course he did, had thugs throw out Jews, and then bashed Jews and Israel. Disgusting is too kind a descriptor.

I may talk about Greenland, if I can quit laughing. Good reasons to have good relations with an independent Greenland, or even to have it become the 51st state.

Also find it interesting that Russia is cutting back its coverage of Trump. Seems Trump has become too popular with the Russian public for the comfort of Vladimir and others. Fractures and fractals, oh my.

Have appointments that may keep me out most of the day tomorrow, and Wednesday is also filling up. That said, hope to get more up this week than I did last week.

More soon. Be prepared and keep your family and friends close, and your things where you can find them in the dark.

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Amusement

I knew the last days in the bunker were going to be interesting. Trump’s forces and various populist armies were closing in, and the rats in the Regency knew it. Yet, I don’t think they realized that there was still some very important business to be done, debts to be settled as it were. The old boy may mostly be gone, but that mean and petty streak that drives the need for revenge (often mistaken/unwarranted/unnecessary) that has been a defining feature of Biden’s career.

For all that I am sickened and disgusted at the unprecedented flood (where are all the ‘our norms’ types on this?) of pardons, I noted a pattern that has made me smile. His family is covered, of course. A somewhat breathtaking (if unsurprising) list of people are covered. As for the overwhelming crowd in which they were semi-hidden is concerned, I must confess I wonder if money transfers were involved.

But, what makes me smile is noticing who isn’t covered. Notice no one named Vindman of any gender is on there (and boy was Mrs. V ticked about that!). I don’t recall seeing the name Ciaramella on there either. Nor was the name Pelosi (or any of her well placed family). There appear to be a number of Obama’s people not on the list. A number of DNC people are not on the list. Certain members of Congresss besides Nancy were not on the list.

Funny thing that all of the names not on the list were involved in removing one Joe Biden from the race (or were supporters of them) and ending his career in a rather ignominious fashion. Joe has long been known for paying back even the smallest of perceived slights rather overwhelmingly. How much of this is Joe (I suspect more than many might think, as this is not thought but reflex honed over a lifetime) and how much is Jill really doesn’t matter. Fredo has settled accounts and arranged to make life interesting for certain individuals and organizations including his Party.

Somehow, I don’t think the pardons, or lack thereof, is all he’s done. I suspect he voted for Trump; as I noted at the time, he slipped a knife into Harris campaign rather expertly more than once; he saddled Obama and the DNC with Harris when that wasn’t the plan; and, well, I could go on. Given all this, anyone want to bet he’s left a few more surprises around? It really would be in keeping with past actions.

Let’s just hope that they are all aimed at his personal enemies, as the Biden Regency may not have destroyed the Republic, but they did a huge amount of damage that will take years, if not generations, to fix. The good news is that we can fix things, restore the Republic, and begin exploring our destiny in the stars. Won’t be easy or inexpensive, and will take not just hard work but “blood, toil, tears, and sweat” as a great man once noted. Then again, nothing truly good is ever easy. Let’s get to it.

More soon. Be prepared and keep your family and friends close, and your things where you can find them in the dark.

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Some Quick Reads

Tied up with medical stuff this morning, mostly appointment joys, but came across the following good reads.

Glenn has a good essay up that is well worth the read.

Steve has a good post up at PJ that I enjoyed.

And also Steve but at Instapundit. Follow the links.

May add some more later, will see.

Ed on the rapid turnover at the FBI (deserves a double facepalm)

Steve is on a roll today, good thread on X. Yes, the classification system needs major overhaul, if not gutting and starting over.

Itchy Feeling (Updates Below)

Okay, not sure what is going on other than that I think The Attack should be in non-fiction. Of many things going on right now, check out this story which should be ringing alarm bells far and wide about sleeper cells and worse. There are several others out there, all of which should be raising hackles and alerts.

For all I would be reluctant to step beyond the Firelight yet, starting to get a real itchy feeling about Monday and the days just beyond. Everyone is happy (and should be) over the election results and the chance to save the Republic. Problem is, what makes you think the deep state and progressives are going to play by the rules? They’ve already shown a large and varied willingness to step beyond the law on various fronts. What makes you think they are just going to lay down and follow the law now?

Interesting that the WEF is 20-24 January, right in time with the inauguration. An inauguration that looks to have a host of those hated by progressives (Milei, Nigel, Katie Hopkins, Musk, Bezos, Pichai, Cook, Altman, Zuckerberg, possibly Meloni, Orban, Bolsonaro, and more) in a small area. Now, add to that a number of darlings of the WEF and Deep State who are suddenly announcing they won’t attend. On one level, good as their absence will raise and enhance the event. On a different level, interesting that some of them will be at events or places well away from a potential ground zero. At the risk of sounding very “conspiracy theory” some of them are at locations where there have been multiple reports of emergency bunkers being built by “nervous” millionaires. Or bigger.

Also, how do you think corporate (legacy) media would respond if something like “The Attack” took place on or just after Inauguration Day? Heck, given what has been going on with DOJ, FBI, DHS, SS, et al, what if they stood aside if not helped?

Yes, I am a professional paranoid. There is a point to game things worst case, so as to be prepared. What we are seeing now could be totally random and innocent, or it may not. Face it though: you are about to have most major and many minor “enemies” of the elites/deep state (world wide) in a small area for several days while good progressive elites are well away and bunkered up (and dispersed).

Probably paranoid, but my shoulder blades are itching. After Butler, I have no faith in those in charge of security at almost any level. Frankly, I hope some foreign who have been cagey do stay away, just to thin the target pool. I also think that Trump and JD need to be widely spaced. As in very, very, nuclear-level widely spaced. Something’s not right. Pay attention. Hope this is wrong, but life could get very interesting real fast.

I’m going to be very busy with Theophany (spent most of today on it actually) the next few days. Will mostly be at Church, but will be keeping an eye on things and will cover as needed/can. Again, hoping I am wrong and the itchy feeling between my shoulder blades is just dry skin. That said, not going to bet on it for all I hope that is all it is.

More soon. Be prepared and keep your family and friends close, and your things where you can find them in the dark.

UPDATE: Moving inside due to “weather” and some major changes to security perimeter. Note that “weather” could well be legit, or it could also be a good cover for reacting to other things. Only time (and the usual DC leaks) will tell. Also, looks like security is beefed up elsewhere too (Not a big DCD fan, but info is info). See this as an additional info point.

UPDATE II: I am delighted at all the continuing last-minute changes to events and plans. Funny that so many progressives are highly upset at them, you would think (as quite a few have noted on X) that it upset sightlines and plans. I want to see more to be honest. Not just on the day, but after. I noted above that the next few weeks could be very interesting. Then you get stories like this which prove the point. It’s still not too late to prepare, or to read The Attack if you have not already done so. No, link generates no payback to me FYI, prefer honest donations if I do good. I’ve been using the recent time at Church to offer up some prayers for today and the days ahead, prayers for peace, for growth, for safety, and more. I encourage you to join me, as I think such is very much needed. I don’t often do this, but will share a daily prayer that is modified from a traditional Orthodox Christian prayer:

O Lord Jesus Christ Our God, forgive our iniquities. Through the intercessions of Thy most pure Mother, save the suffering people of Earth from the yoke of the godless authority.

I will note that non-respectful discussions of the prayer will see the banhammer brought out of storage. Also, is anyone surprised at the last spasm of pardons? The Biden Regency is protecting all those it can, and through them others as well. All the more reason change is needed.

And if you need something unsettling for the day, think about this. Note the dragging of feet on confirmation hearings for several key players in the new admin. Now, look at the line of succession. Particularly look at who is where as of about 1230 hours today. Now, literally, look at where 1-3 are at that time. Now, look up who is 4, 5, and 6 and where they will be. More soon.

UPDATE III: Made it through the day surprisingly peacefully. Thank you Lord! As of this morning, Rubio is confirmed so as soon as he is sworn in a major problem in succession is fixed. Now to get the others in place.

Now to make it through the next few weeks. Read the comments as several good calls about things. One of my concerns remains attacks against civilians and infrastructure. It would not need assistance from elements of the government (already had that) nearly as much as weaponized elements of DOJ, etc. standing down or simply not standing up at need. Blame the new admin and not the failures and machinations of the past Regency. The next 2-6 weeks are critical in terms of change-of-command and dealing with rot. That said, Trump seems to be coming in with better intel this time, and plans laid out, and that could narrow the window, possibly even considerably. The top of the chain is relatively easy in many respects, it’s down the chain that time is needed along with good leadership. Keep those prayers and thoughts going folks. We are NOT out of the woods yet, but we are in a much better place than we were yesterday morning.

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Elan Furs: Not Recommended

Sorry for two negative in a row, but I used Elan Furs to clean Fluffy, my Russian fur hat. Lot of good reviews, but I should have paid closer attention to the negative reviews. The long and the short is that they damaged Fluffy; did their best to hide it until I was out of the store; and, there is no real way to repair the damage. I have had something done (not by them) to try to keep it from getting worse, but it seems a true repair really isn’t possible. Not recommended.

DoorDash = Rip Off

The short version for those members of the short-attention-span theatre is that in my opinion they are thieves, and are not recommended. Do not use or trust them for anything. For those who want the full version, here is why I think they are thieves.

Back in December, on the 26th to be precise, I was under the weather and not wanting to go out of the house. This also meant I did not feel like walking to the Steer-Inn (historic diner, Flavortown approved) for a Fiesta omelette. So, being now officially disabled and sick, I decided to give DoorDash a try with the order. I had used them for a small order before, and that had gone okay. So, why not give them a try?

This is what my order looked like when it arrived. Does this look anything like a Fiesta omelette?

Does this? So, first thing I did was to reach out via the web page, but this leads only to an option to request a refund.

So, I use the chat feature to reach out to the delivery driver, Jonte. No go. Tried again. No response.

So, reached out every way I could find. Turns out, the contact info they have with PayPal does not appear to be current, and when I talked with PayPal they provided me a means to actually reach a person. Did so, three times I do believe, and each time they would launch an appeal which was denied. According to them, I got food so I should suck it up and deal with it; that because I got food and had only used them a couple of times meant I should just deal with it and any disappointment was entirely on me. In movie terms: “You f’d up! You trusted us!”

Talking with PayPal, no chance of any help through them because it was a delivery and they don’t get involved. I really need to talk to Visa and see what if anything they can do.

I also want to note that at no point in the process was I asked to provide proof of the wrong order being delivered. In fact, in the initial contact means provided there was no way to do so. When I was denied for the about the fourth time and someone said it was because I had provided no proof (that I repeat I was NEVER asked for) that I finally got an e-mail to send them the photos. I did so. Didn’t matter, no refund.

So, I’m done with them and I am going to do everything I can to warn people about them and their oh-so-interesting business practices. If anyone has any data on how often this is done to the elderly and disabled, I think that could be fascinating to share with a couple of different State AGs who have a habit of suing companies (and even administrations) for interesting practices and such.

Meantime, I do not recommend them and in fact urge you not to give them any business. Save yourself the money, time, and hassle as after about three days they will stop responding even if they have said they will do so. They lie. They also have competition, and if anyone has info on a good delivery service let me know. Meantime, save yourself a rip-off and avoid DoorDash.

Oh, and if they don’t like my opinion that they are thieves (didn’t get the food I ordered or my money back, that’s theft in my book and happy to discuss it in court if they like), they can suck it up and deal with the understandable disappointment (think that was the wording given me by one person on their staff) because it is fully on them.