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You’re going to fall to Earth somewhere. Late yesterday, there were posts saying two Russian cruise missiles had missed a target in the Ukraine and hit Poland instead. Other than noting I really could do without Russian quality control, I joined with a few other sane people to encourage waiting, getting facts, and noting that this was a NATO Article 4 situation, not 5. Then, being so terrified by the more outrageous tweets and reports (/sarc) I went to bed.
Even before I went to bed, I was noticing amidst the many calls for NATO to take action, that some key people were being very precise with their wording. Such as “Russian made rocket” and the like. When politicians and other senior types get that precise, there is a reason.
Sure enough, this morning there is confirmation that they were not Russian cruise missiles, or even SRBMs. Instead, they were anti-aircraft missiles launched by the Ukrainians at Russian missiles. Russian built, yes; but, not Russian fired. Those pushing for a “real” war between NATO and Russia seem to be switching gears to the concept that Russia was responsible since it was their attack that resulted in the missiles being fired.
As we’ve discussed here before, back in the very early days, there are a number of people and countries who want a no-fly zone over the Ukraine. That such would guarantee an expansion of the war and pit NATO versus Russia is the goal desired by them. Some of them are former client states, who know Russia’s goals for reunification and have no desire to ever be subject to Moscow again. Hard to blame them, but let’s consider other options before starting WWIII. Others have their own reason, and a number of politicians and oligarchia around the world (including the U.S.) see a chance to get rich and continue centralizing government power off another endless war.
After all, the people most likely to die are deplorables and low-lifes anyway, not the upper-crust elite blue check/Ivy League/WEF crowd. The so-called elites want to thin those people out anyway. Nope, breaking thousands of eggs for an omelette is fine by them as none of their types will be among the eggs used.
The problem with that is, if things go the way they easily could, they may be among the first to go. Let’s face it, those big cities so favored by the so-called elites? Targets. In part because of the elites.
As I noted here and here, we are headed into far more dangerous times rather than into calmer in regards war. Throw in all the domestic and international issues and problems, and it just gets better and better (/sarc)
Yesterday provides a great example in terms of how far too many, including our leaders, really don’t understand Russia or the Russian people. No, they are not just like us but speak a different language. They have a very different history and culture that shapes their actions and reactions.
Look at the Russian reaction to the accusations they had hit Poland. As I noted elsewhere, the standard Russian reaction to anyone calling it out on anything is a combination of overly dramatic soccer player screaming like he’s being gutted by Jack the Ripper and falling to the ground when someone moves within five feet of him, and psycho Mel Gibson from Lethal Weapon. ‘Oh, oh, I’ve been attacked and I will retaliate massively. You know I will, I’m crazy, I’ve proven it, do or say anything and it’s on!’ Tip: the more they scream and threaten over an accusation, the more guilty they are.
In many respects, the best response is to respond with reason crossed with psycho Mel Gibson. The problem is, that is a fine line to walk. Especially given three key pieces of cultural baggage.
First, you have the Russian cultural inferiority complex. If you’ve not read some of work on Russians and culture by Kamil Galeev, or some of the really good history books, it can be hard to understand. Short version, they’ve always seen themselves as the downtrodden country bumpkins in comparison to other countries, particularly Germany and England. It’s why when Catherine decided to “modernize” Russia she imported Germans, made them nobles, and used the German model of government and society for Russia. It’s a factor in German/Russian relations to this day.
Second, you have another layer of cultural inferiority that comes from Communism. Communism was constantly playing catch-up with the rest of the world in terms of products, technology, science, and pretty much anything else because Communism/Socialism sucks and destroys creativity, productivity, and all else that is good including lives.
Third, you have Rus/Slav paranoia, which is raised up into an art form all its own. Yes, they have been attacked many times. Sometimes in response to their actions, as the neighbors get a bit peeved when you invade, rape, and pillage over the centuries with gleeful abandon. Anyway, the various invasions led to the whole concept of controlling the passes to prevent any attacks (or retaliation). It also led to massive paranoia that makes me look like Captain Whatever. That paranoia and equating retaliation with attack really shines at times like this.
All of this is why Russia immediately claimed any accusation they were responsible in any way, shape, or form was a provocation (attack). They are always the victim in their own mind. A “victim” that increasingly only has limited cards to play. Again, we are headed into far more interesting times right now.
While I suspect far too many leaders and so-called elites don’t have a clue about history and culture, others do. Others who have played this incident for all they are worth to expand the war. They are the most dangerous, as they know they are playing with nuclear fire, and don’t care.
So, where are we? Article 4 is off the table for now, though NATO will discuss/is discussing the situation at its scheduled meeting. Vladimir will make hay off the accusations with the internal audience, which is the only one he truly cares about and it may indeed help him with it. Those pushing for a “real” war could sadly make some headway.
My take is: treat any and all reports as unconfirmed to start. Things can move too fast in situations like this for the 48-hour rule, but sit back, listen, and check trusted sources. Do not pour gasoline on any fires. Also, make note of who clickbaits and posts wildly. They, like sources that headline most posts as BREAKING NEWS and such, are not to be trusted.
Before I forget, my title and opening line are a play on a poem in Mad magazine many years (decades, sigh) back. It was an ode to NASA that had me rolling. Not going to post the whole thing, but I still remember and love the lines: “We shot a rocket into space, we fear it fell to Earth someplace. Though we were aiming for the moon, Red China says we hit Kowloon.” The ending was “…and all our space probe expertise, found nothing but enraged Chinese.” And, yes, it does play off the old poem about shooting an arrow into the air. Back in the day, Mad made full use of the classics and was an amazingly fun read.
I’m with Zeihan on this one: even if Russia conquered all of Ukraine, they wouldn’t stop. At best, there would be a pause for a year or two for rebuilding before they went after the next targets. Russia’s goal is, at the minimum, the Vistula River and the Danube-Black Sea Canal, which means that at some point, Article V *will* be in play. And that means nukes are a very real possibility, because Russia doesn’t stand a chance conventionally. Russians *really* want those shorter, more defensible borders, in order to feel “safe”.
Which means that fighting a proxy war, which the Russians have for decades accepted as a less-escalatory alternative to direct conflict, is the “safest” alternative. It’s still risky, but perhaps less so than either abandoning Ukraine to appease Russia or intervening directly.
I wish that so many had not fucked up so bad in the run-up to the invasion. I wish that we had started helping them years ago, just as I wish the demented meat puppet and incompetent Regency had not all but dared Vladimir to go in. But, it happened. Anyone with half a brain and who had looked at Russkiy Mir knew it was coming as it is all clearly spelled out.
Agree that if Vladimir had succeeded, he would not stop and the former client states know it too. Have said that a time or two early on.
Short of having been smart and stopping this before it began, proxy is best alternative if we can keep it to a proxy war. Even at that, there is a growing nuclear risk short of things changing in Moscow. Looking for alternate endings/options to deal with things, but not seeing anything right now. Even if Vladimir goes, the likely alternatives are even more ultranationalist. Kamil argues that Russia needs to be broken up, but not seeing a good option to get there.
Russia breaking up is probably inevitable as their demography and economy collapse. My first, second, and seventeenth concern is their nukes. Everything else pales in comparison, especially since the outcome of a conventional fight is almost a foregone conclusion at this point. Will they use them? Worse, if (when?) the current regime falls, what happens to them? The ideal scenario would be a repeat of last time: we pay the successor government (and add in whatever bribes are necessary) to allow us to remove the warheads and convert them to reactor fuel. But I don’t see that happening this time around; there are too many hardliners waiting in the wings, many of whom make Putin look almost *moderate*. How many would be foolish enough to play chicken with nukes? How many warheads might grow legs in exchange for cash from people we really don’t want to have nukes? In some ways, we just kicked the can down the road in the ’90s, although even in hindsight I’m not sure we could have accomplished much more than we did (going from ~40,000 to less than a tenth of that is really a big deal, and even Yeltsin was never going to go below 4-digits). Maybe nuclear war was always inevitable; I certainly would like to believe it isn’t.
And, here’s something else to keep you up at night: China faces almost exactly the same questions, given their own collapsing demography (with their economic bubble soon to follow). When warlords come crawling out of the woodwork, who gets control of their rapidly-growing atomic arsenal, and what do they do with it?